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million new jobs. my energy independence policy means 3 million new jobs. my tax reform plan to lower rates for the middle class and small business creates 7 million more. expanding trade, cracking down on china, and improving job training takes us to over 12 million new jobs. i'm mitt romney, and i approve this message. that is the candidates and their plan for creating jobs, particularly in manufacturing. eric morath is an economy reporter for "the wall street journal." chris savage is back of the table -- nice to see you, mr. savage. how much leverage does the president have in creating jobs in the manufacturing sector? guest: it is difficult for them to directly see these numbers go up and down. we have seen the obama administration tried to do that the last four years and we have seen ideas from the ronny administration. romney administration. host: how large a role this manufacturing plant in the u.s.? -- does manufacturing play in the u.s.? guest: a lot of people feel like it is is dying industry in america, but take a look at the numbers. the u.s. still the world's largest man
was wondering if you thought it was the way they came out and the energy that they had or if what they're saying has as big an effect as the perception of how they're doing and how excited they are to be there. >> well the first observation is clearly aarp is lowered because it's membership age. i think the body language is important and i think that the president hurt himself with that. i don't think that the romney side should think that he's going to be like that in the next debate. i think they'll look at that and think that's not what we wanted to project. but at the same time, you can go back to the tape and break it down like a football game, romney had a lot of good points that he got across and i thought from a policy standpoint, i thought it was pretty rich. when people are complaining that this got too much into policy and too deep in the woods, well usually the complaint is there's not enough substance, it's too style oriented. so i think from that standpoint, it was a pretty good debate for the american people to see a lot. the one difference i think was that clearly mitt romney cam
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